Wednesday 7 October 2015

GUN CONTROL VERSUS GUN RIGHTS



The UK brought in gun control in 1997.

Violent crime did not go up after 1997.

As the graph above shows, the UK has seen a steady reduction in violent crime since the mid 1990s.

Meanwhile, in the United States, gun ownership has been falling steadily.

And the USA has experienced the same sharp decline in violence beginning in the 1990s.

However, in 2010, the US murder rate was still 4 times higher than that of the UK.

By the Numbers.

Only about one-third of American households now own a gun, compared to about one-half in 1973.



Here is a list of the most influential pro-gun rights advocates.

The list contains a number of friends of Israel and friends of the CIA.

1. Col. Oliver North of Iran-Contra fame.

2. John Bolton, a top neo-conservative, involved in the Council on Foreign Relations and the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs,

3. Donald Trump and Jeb Bush.

4. Sen. Rand Paul

5. Sarah Palin

6. Sen. Ted Cruz


John Bolton

7. Glenn Beck, radio and television personality 8. Mark Levin, conservative talk radio host 9. Former Texas Gov. Rick Perry.10. Sean Hannity, conservative Fox News TV host. 11. Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie. 12. Johnny Depp. 13. Eric Clapton. 14. Jennifer Lawrence, the "Hunger Games" actress. 15. Steven Spielberg, movie producer and director.

16. George Zimmerman, the Floridian who defended himself when involved with Trayvon Martin in 2012, was acquitted of second degree murder in 2013 and had a hate crime investigation eventually dropped by the Department of Justice in 2015.

Presidential Candidates / Most Influential Pro-Gun Rights Advocates



Do the Powers-That-Be support Gun Control or Gun Rights?

Yes.

They appear to support both.

Did the Powers-That-Be support or oppose Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi?

Yes. 

The Powers-That-Be put them into power and then toppled them.


American kids killed by guns.

Stephen Colbert said:[3]

Truthiness is tearing apart our country…

It used to be, everyone was entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts. But that's not the case anymore.

Facts matter not at all. 

Perception is everything. It's certainty.

In the USA, "the states with the highest gun ownership rates have a gun murder rate 114% higher than those with the lowest gun ownership rates." 

"Update: A recent study looking at 30 years of homicide data in all 50 states found that for every one percent increase in a state's gun ownership rate, there is a nearly one percent increase in its firearm homicide rate."

10 Pro-Gun Myths.



"Mass shootings stopped by armed civilians in the past 30 years: 0"

Mother Jones defines mass shootings as being events where the shooter took the lives of at least four people.

10 Pro-Gun Myths.

"Between 1966 and 2012, there were 90 mass shootings in the United States. Mass shootings are defined ... as having four or more victims."

U.S. leads the world in mass shootings.



"Owning a gun has been linked to higher risks of homicide, suicide, and accidental death by gun.

• For every time a gun is used in self-defense in the home, there are 7 assaults or murders, 11 suicide attempts, and 4 accidents involving guns in or around a home.

43% of homes with guns and kids have at least one unlocked firearm.

• In one experiment, one third of 8-to-12-year-old boys who found a handgun pulled the trigger."



Getting kids ready to fight in Israel's wars?

"A Philadelphia study found that the odds of an assault victim being shot were 4.5 times greater if he carried a gun. His odds of being killed were 4.2 times greater."

"A woman's chances of being killed by her abuser increase more than 5 times if he has access to a gun."

10 Pro-Gun Myths.



In the USA, the Powers-That-Be are opposed to gun control.

"Major US firearms manufacturers have significant Jewish leadership."

Jews in the Firearms Industry

In 1994 Colt's Manufacturing Company was purchased by Zilkha & Company.

Donald Zilkha, company president, is the son of Azouri Ezra Zilkha, "a scion of a Babylonian Jewish banking family."

article on Maine Antique Digest

The President and CEO of Sig Sauer is named Ron Cohen.

Kimber's owners/operators are reportedly Jewish.


Jeb Bush says the US does not need new gun laws as 'stuff happens'.

Richard Feldman (who is Jewish) is a lobbyist for the National Rifle Association.

"Holding top positions in the NRA and public advocacy groups supportive of gun owners' rights, Jewish gun backers draw on everything from the Holocaust to Israel's experience in fighting terror to justify the battle against limiting access to guns."

Jewish Gun Leaders Come Out Firing

"House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (who is Jewish) ... holds a top rating from the NRA and received ... campaign contributions ... from the gun lobby..."

Tennessee Rep. Steve Cohen (Jewish) owns a .38 Special and has a license allowing him to carry a concealed weapon, but he does not go around with the gun.

Former Arizona congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords (Jewish), who retired from the House of Representatives after sustaining severe gunshots injuries during an assassination attempt, was also a gun owner.

"Alan Gottlieb (Jewish), one of America's most vocal supporters of gun rights says: 'The truth is that there are quite a lot of Jewish activists in the gun-rights movement.'

Jewish Gun Leaders Come Out Firing

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Leading Jewish voices on behalf of gun owners include Sandy Froman, an Arizona attorney who served as the NRA's president from 2005 to 2007, and Alan Gura, an Israeli-born attorney. 

Gura has led some of the gun rights lobby's courtroom successes.


Brian Judy (Jewish), a National Rifle Association lobbyist, has reportedly linked gun control to the Holocaust.

Jews For The Preservation of Firearms Ownership.

Rabbi Menachem Margolin has urged Europe to allow special permits for Jewish people to carry guns.

He says Jews should be allowed to carry firearms for self-defense 'amid rising anti-Semitism.'

Allow Jews To Carry Guns, Rabbi Asks.


An Israeli and a boy.

Anonymous comments:

I liked this:

The idea here is that your friendly neighborhood gun owner is not just a hobbyist assassinating apples with an assault rifle in his spare time (impressive though the old dude in this video may be), but a quick-drawing, sharp-shooting hero-in-waiting who will take out the criminals like Time Crisis NPCs if and when the shit goes down. 

And if there were more Americans like him—at least one in every classroom, movie theater, and Bible study, ideally—mass murderers would think twice before shooting anything.

The meme gets at the central argument espoused by the pro-gun lobby in recent years, rephrasing former NRA President Wayne LaPierre's famous 2013 statement that, "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."

Unfortunately, though, LaPierre's "good guy" fantasy is just that. 

While it's true that gunslinging civilians have stopped a few shootings, in real life, these armed vigilantes can also be very unhelpful. In the heat of a firefight, they might aim for the wrong person, for example, or end up shooting that person in the head. And sometimes, they get themselves killed.

If you get away from action movie scenarios, science says gun owners are less safe from gun violence than other people. 

Because when the good guys end their nightly patrols and holster their guns, they generally take those guns home. 

And studies have shown that once they're there, they're more likely - twice as likely, by some estimates - to be killed by a "bad guy" than people who don't keep firearms at home.

Calling Bullshit on the Internet's Right-Wing Gun Memes.

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35 Comments:

At 7 October 2015 at 13:06 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3263733/Undercover-Israeli-policemen-infiltrated-group-Palestinian-stone-throwers-shoot-wound-three-demonstrators-violent-West-Bank-confrontation.html

 
At 7 October 2015 at 14:15 , Anonymous Brabantian said...

The Mother Jones article you link claiming no civilian ever stopped a mass shooting, is a total lie. Here is an article debunking the Mother Jones lies, citing incidents such as the following.

«– Mayan Palace Theater, San Antonio, Texas, this week [Dec 2012]: Jesus Manuel Garcia shoots at a movie theater, a police car and bystanders from the nearby China Garden restaurant; as he enters the movie theater, guns blazing, an armed off-duty cop shoots Garcia four times, stopping the attack. Total dead: Zero.

– Winnemucca, Nev., 2008: Ernesto Villagomez opens fire in a crowded restaurant; concealed carry permit-holder shoots him dead. Total dead: Two. (I’m excluding the shooters’ deaths in these examples.)

– Appalachian School of Law, 2002: Crazed immigrant shoots the dean and a professor, then begins shooting students; as he goes for more ammunition, two armed students point their guns at him, allowing a third to tackle him. Total dead: Three.

– Santee, Calif., 2001: Student begins shooting his classmates — as well as the “trained campus supervisor”; an off-duty cop who happened to be bringing his daughter to school that day points his gun at the shooter, holding him until more police arrive. Total dead: Two.

– Pearl High School, Mississippi, 1997: After shooting several people at his high school, student heads for the junior high school; assistant principal Joel Myrick retrieves a .45 pistol from his car and points it at the gunman’s head, ending the murder spree. Total dead: Two.

– Edinboro, Pa., 1998: A student shoots up a junior high school dance being held at a restaurant; restaurant owner pulls out his shotgun and stops the gunman. Total dead: One.

These are just a few examples of mass shootings being prevented...»

 
At 7 October 2015 at 14:59 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Winston Churchill the horrible truth

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=122584

A Great British Traitor?

Is this the real reason why Churchill was hitting the bottle - conscience eating away

 
At 7 October 2015 at 15:38 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

i am not swayed by statistics ("lies, damn lies, and statistics" - mark twain).

i am not influenced by which hated politicians or loved celebrities are claimed to support individual freedom, or wish to steal an individual's freedom.

i want freedom for myself, and because of that, for all others.

i wish to be free from force of others.

sorry you haven't got a 2nd amendment.

-youfumbledthis

 
At 7 October 2015 at 15:38 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's a Tea Party red neck site health site called Natural News. It is Deep South and very conservative. They mix politics with natural health news. These ultra conservatives pretend to be anti elite, and anti corporation, but their libertarian views increase the power of the mega rich and their corporations.

Natural News is pro gun. Here's what they say.

"Yet another psych drug shooter: Oregon gunman Christopher Mercer was taking five types of medication, likely vaccine-damaged with autism spectrum disorder'.

Drugs and alcohol are very difficult to remove from society, and people are born with autism. The simple solution is to remove the guns.

 
At 7 October 2015 at 15:49 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Video: “ISIS is a division of the CIA” — Russian colonel

The amount of evil he US has spread in the world since it's inception (starting with the genocide of the American native Indians) is off the planet. It is said that the Germans killed millions of people in gas chambers, but the American turned whole countries into gigantic ovens of hell by mass bombing them with napalm, phosphorous, and K77.

So that we can have this cosy capitalism today, millions of people around the world have died, and often in terrible agony. This Russian general say's no more.

Russian Colonel: ISIS is a division of the CIA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCS7zz0l8_M

 
At 7 October 2015 at 16:16 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

England has issues with knives from what I have heard. If the English were allowed guns the powers that be would have a lot to be worried about.

 
At 7 October 2015 at 16:22 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The US supports Islamic fascism. Weird isn't it, the land of the free and liberal society, supports death squads, gun nuts, religious extremism, and enslavement everywhere else. Free speech is never allowed.

Caught on camera: Life under IS rule in Raqqa - Syria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnFQ4wdpSmQ

 
At 7 October 2015 at 17:13 , Anonymous brabantian said...

What is little appreciated is that 'pro-gun' US politicians are playing out an extended devious oligarch trick on the US working class. A quarter century ago, USA gov mind-manipulation psychologists figured out that US citizens could be quickly deprived of most freedoms if temporarily allowed to own multiple guns & have concealed weapons permits, by this having an illusion of freedom, & thus a substitute for it.

US comedian Bill Maher jokes about this - Yanks love their gun rights because they have no other rights left as they are mauled & jailed & bankrupted by crooked companies, courts & lawyers, & killed by policemen.

US gov already ran gun-confiscation trial runs, in New Orleans (Katrina) & Boston (Marathan alleged 'bombing'), they found US citizens rolled over like sheep, giving up all their guns to the storm-troopers, no resistance 'out of my cold dead hands - molon labe' etc as Yanks like to boast.

Aangirfan you will get your wish, US regime will try to take away their guns ... ultimately the paedophile governments do not want people to have the power of resistance, & want a monopoly on defence weapons. Media already suppress the hundreds of thousands of stories of citizens saving lives with guns, because they do not want people to feel empowered. Aangirfan himself even thought guns weren't preventing massacres, the media black-out is so thorough.

For many of us Continental Europeans, Brits are often anti-gun crazy weird irrational ... you should see the arsenals in a French farmhouse, ha! ... But it's a bit sad to see someone like Aangirfan get so one-sided & propagandistic here ... pictures of children who died from gun wounds ... but ignoring the many more children, women, families, who were saved by guns (see Paxton Quigley 'Armed & Female') ... plus ignoring the larger issue that ultimately there needs to be the power to resist fascist child-molesting governments.

After guns are taken away - as the victims of the Rwanda genocide found out - it is too late. The UN & anti-gun-folks never apologised to the hundreds of thousands of murdered Rwandans, victims of a UN-fostered gun confiscation programme, the absence of guns leading to ultimate barbarism ... those who oppose guns are preparing the way for more such genocides in the future.

1962 book 'Negroes with Guns' should be recalled ... the author a forgotten, fascinating American radical, black dissident Robert F. Williams (1925-1996), who had to depart the US as a political refugee, & even met with Chairman Mao of China.

 
At 7 October 2015 at 17:50 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gun nut Michael Adams scores a hit with SSRI's Lies. The words are good, but it's a shame about his ultra conservative views.

A leading Chinese diplomat recently said that the only way you talk to the US is down the barrow of a gun.

Conservatism is the reason for all the hell in the world. Then the new liberals took over from the conservatives and tried to spread their version of freedom along with gay rights - allowing men to wear dresses ( nothing wrong with gay rights, and I loved David Bowie's, Man who Sold The World, didn't you? He wore a dress on the front cover). The neo liberals, or neo conservatives, combined their ultimate terror with a loveless form of freedom, a new fascism, which often came along with napalm and K77 attached.

SSRI'S by Michael Adams.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOyEXpGH244

 
At 7 October 2015 at 21:07 , Blogger Anon said...

Certain Americans have issues with low levels of education, from what I have heard. If Americans were better educated, the powers that be would have a lot to worry about.

 
At 7 October 2015 at 21:14 , Blogger Anon said...

"Jesus Manuel Garcia shoots at a movie theater..."

If there was effective gun control this would not have happened.

You claim to have examples of mass shootings being prevented. Yet, 15 people seem to have died in the incidents you describe.

What you have in America, thanks to the lack of gun control, is a lot of people shooting at each other.

 
At 7 October 2015 at 21:20 , Blogger Anon said...

One of the criteria Mother Jones used to define mass shootings is that "the shooter took the lives of at least four people."

 
At 7 October 2015 at 21:23 , Blogger Anon said...

The Mother Jones article has not been debunked.

 
At 7 October 2015 at 21:28 , Blogger Anon said...

Any country with lots of guns does not enjoy freedom.

 
At 7 October 2015 at 21:34 , Blogger Anon said...

You claim that "Media already suppress the hundreds of thousands of stories of citizens saving lives with guns... the media black-out is so thorough."

Some people claim that the media is supressing the story that the Moon is hollow and occupied by aliens.

 
At 7 October 2015 at 21:53 , Blogger Anon said...

Between 1966 and 2012, there were 90 mass shootings in the United States.

Mass shootings are defined as having four or more victims.

Gun ownership does not prevent mass shootings.

 
At 8 October 2015 at 00:01 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Natural news is run by a Jew...so more like a fake "red neck" website.

 
At 8 October 2015 at 01:32 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gun control means the ability to hit your target.

In Kennesaw, Georgia the city mandated that every able bodied person must own a gun. Crime is near zero there.

 
At 8 October 2015 at 01:48 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

And countries without guns are paradises on Earth?

 
At 8 October 2015 at 05:01 , Blogger Anon said...

In 1982, the rural community of Kennesaw, in Georgia, passed a law requiring every head of a household to own a gun.

Kennesaw is a small town which before 1982 had a very, very low crime rate.

In 1982, the community of Morton Grove, Illinois, passed a handgun ban.

In 2003, Morton Grove had 4 robberies compared to 7 in Kennesaw.

In 2003, Morton Grove had 12 aggravated assaults compared to 15 in Kennesaw.

In 2003, Morton Grove had 70 burglaries compared to 89 in Kennesaw.

In 2003, Morton Grove had 390 incidents of larcency and theft compared to 455 in Kennesaw.

In 2014, in Kennesaw, a man with a shotgun began shooting at people. Six people were wounded, two critically, before the gunman finally killed himself.

 
At 8 October 2015 at 05:02 , Blogger Anon said...

Exactly.

 
At 8 October 2015 at 05:14 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

ultra-conservative = supporting the 2nd amendment ?

Use those labels ! Rest that cortex !

 
At 8 October 2015 at 06:12 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Didn't know that. I thought he was just some ordinary southern American redneck guy who nearly got diabetes but cured himself with natural methods. But it turns out he might be just a very ruthless businessman preying on the vulnerable.

The medical profession are his biggest critics, but I know many of their medicines are poisons. And the GMO industry is a big critic too. But I trust none of these organisations.

Anyway, I never did like Mike Adams because of his extreme right wing views. Mike Adams has upset many other rednecks who sell natural products by claiming that his tests reveal that their products are harmful. So we have a sort of turf war going on.

From the net:

“The Legend Of Mike Adams And The Reality”

Eye opening to me, as I used to be a fan. Mike’s formal degree is in “technical writing”. He owns a very lucrative spam-mail company. He is aggressively and actively designing software to elude anti-spam software. Every time you log-in his site, your info is sent to dozens of spammers. He is also massively full of shit on much of what he espouses. A 10-page essay that nails the evil little fraudster:

The Legend of Mike Adams and the Reality:

http://healthwyze.org/index.php/component/content/article/616-special-report-the-legend-of-mike-adams-and-the-reality.html

He also sells how to get rich schemes. Which always indicates to me a fraudster:

Extract:

The 7 Principles of Mindful Wealth.

In that article, Adams stated, "... it made me abandon five years of false beliefs and unlock a powerful new philosophy of financial abundance. I'm sharing that breakthrough financial philosophy with you here, but it's only something you'll find valuable if you're ready to let go of false limitations about money and welcome real, lasting change in attracting the money you deserve into your life...

 
At 8 October 2015 at 06:17 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I often wondered about SSRIlies. Did he hire a professional music company to put together the song for him, and all he had to do was sing it in it, probably with the help of studio gimmickry. His critics say he was trying to attract a more younger audience to his site. Big business again.

 
At 8 October 2015 at 06:22 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

'In Kennesaw, Georgia the city mandated that every able bodied person must own a gun.'

I guess someone at Georgia got a backhander from the gun shops there.

 
At 8 October 2015 at 06:53 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25022680

An "obsession" with reducing crime is creating pressure on police to "manipulate" crime figures, a senior police officer has said.

Derbyshire's Chief Constable Mick Creedon said numerous officers in "many forces" had told him it was happening.

He said officers were "doing everything they can" to avoid crime going up.

Policing Minister Damian Green said a "robust" inquiry into recording practices by the Inspectorate of Constabulary would report next autumn.

On Tuesday, MPs heard claims that forces were routinely manipulating crime statistics to meet targets.

BBC home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw said it was the first time a chief constable had spoken out in this way and his comments would fuel a debate about the reliability of crime data.

Mr Creedon, who speaks for the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) on organised crime, insisted the "real position" was that domestic violence and sexual violence were going up.

He said manipulation of the figures was the "unintended consequence" of pressure from police leaders, inspections and plans drawn up by police and crime commissioners to cut crime.

Addressing the Acpo conference, he said: "Inadvertently we are putting pressure on officers to do all they can to manipulate to create crime reductions."

 
At 8 October 2015 at 09:02 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aangirfan,
you are correct of course, understand there were absolutely no guns in the public in the USSR, and even the Beatles sung

I'm back in the U.S.S.R.
You don't know how lucky you are boy
Back in the U.S.S.R. (Yeah)

very unfortunately, that fact that all guns were confiscated, permitted the Jewish-Bolshevik cabal to kill millions of People...

Caveman

 
At 8 October 2015 at 11:19 , Blogger Anon said...

Lenin came to power because he was popular.

Lenin promised to bring an end to the war, to give land to peasants, to give workers control of factories and to take control of the banks.

The Bolsheviks actually gave guns to the workers.

You write: "That fact that all guns were confiscated, permitted the Jewish-Bolshevik cabal to kill millions of People."

Would these guns have saved these people from the might of the Russian state?

Can you imagine a bunch of Palestinians with guns taking on the Israeli army.

Can you imagine an armed militia in Florida defeating the US army, navy and airforce?

 
At 8 October 2015 at 14:06 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aangirfan,
-Lenin did not come to power because he was popular. This Marxist had stayed more than 4 years here in Switzerland, then a country clearly opposed to Marxism. Assuming very strongly, it was at that time again the Jewish-Masonic matrix, which helped him to get onto that sealed train on the way St. Petersburg. A city which must have been rendered ripe for revolution by the mentioned matrix. (e.g. missing weat..)
Nikolai Starikov is giving details about Lenins “guided journey back to Russia” in following interesting interview, at 02:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTJc9pN29A4
-The Bolsheviks did f o r c e many peasants into the armed service of the Red Army, but once the Pole Pilsudski stopped the invading Reds, the peasants escaped their Bolshevik demagogues/commissars and ran home to their villages.
-a certain Eustace Mullins is claiming in one of his books, that the Ford Foundation did some research concerning the chances of an armed resurrection of the population. If I recall correctly, then 80% of a the US population would accept whatever government, 19% would try to shake off a dictatorship with peaceful means, but 1% of the armed population would be sufficient to overthrow the government, if the government would really act like “their cousins” did, back in the USSR…
Caveman

 
At 8 October 2015 at 23:53 , Blogger Anon said...

Let us not forget that Hitler had many fans at the time of the 1933 election. Lenin was popular in 1917; Russia's Provisional Government was unpopular because it did not want to end the war. Even Stalin had many fans. Your Ford Foundation is not a reliable source as it has links to the CIA.

 
At 9 October 2015 at 08:55 , Blogger LCR said...

I'm a bit shocked that Aangirfan doesn't recognize that almost all of these heavily promoted media circus "mass shootings" under Obama are staged psyops run by DHS, FEMA, & the FBI. (See Sofia Smallstorm & Dave McGowan's exposes on Sandy Hook & Boston) There is plenty of research into these events that conclusively proof the false flag psyops... Aurora, Tuscon, Sandy Hook, Charleston, Chattanooga, UCC shooting, D.C. Navy Yard, Ft. Hood, Boston,etc.

 
At 9 October 2015 at 09:28 , Blogger Anon said...

Aangirfan has written that Sandy Hook, Aurora, Charleston etc are False Flag attacks.

These attacks are part of the Strategy of Tension.

Aangirfan has also written about the 1980 Bologna Bombing and a host of other CIA-linked False Flags which are part of the Strategy of Tension.

The Strategy of Tension was not designed to bring about gun control.

In recent posts we have written about the over-10,000 Americans killed by hand guns in one year.

We have also written about the high murder rate in the USA compared to that in the UK.

The Powers-That-Be are supporting Gun Rights.

More than half of Congress has taken gun loby money.

 
At 9 October 2015 at 09:30 , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some of my recent comments on firearms and projection have been blocked. Projection's easy to spot in others, eh ? :o)

 
At 30 October 2015 at 01:19 , Blogger Unknown said...

Thanks for the post. Gun has always been the issue of debate for most of the American and European nations. Guns are supposed to be the part of security stuff but nowadays it has been used as a stuff of suppressing others. America has a gun culture from last some decades. They may simply join any Firearms safety training classes and get the license to have guns. This has raised the no of guns in America.

 

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